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╘OPIC 1 ╞RI ╙EP 21, 1990 ├128-┬╔╠╠ AT 16:40 ┼─╘ ╙UB: ╫ELCOME TO THE ╙OFTWARE ├ATEGORY! ╘HIS AREA IS FOR YOUR ╤UESTIONS, ┴NSWERS, AND ├OMMENTS ABOUT OUR TRUSTY ├-64 AND ├-128 ├OMPUTERS. ╘O ENTER A NEW ╘OPIC, PLEASE USE THE ╙╘┴ (FOR ╙╘┴╥╘ ┴ ╘╧╨╔├) COMMAND. 1 MESSAGE(S) TOTAL. ------------ ═ESSAGE 1 ╞RI ╙EP 21, 1990 ├128-┬╔╠╠ AT 16:42 ┼─╘ ╞OR GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT MOST ANY SOFTWARE DESIGNED FOR OUR ├OMMODORE 8-BIT MACHINES. ┴LL OLD MESSAGES ARE ARCHIVED INTO THE ╞LAG╙HIP ╠IBRARIES. ─ON'T BE AFRAID TO START A TOPIC WITH THE '╙╘┴' COMMAND. ┘OUR ╞LAG╙HIP ╙┘╙╧╨╙ CAN FIX JUST ABOUT ANYTHING HERE! ------------ *************** ├ATEGORY 3 ╘OPIC 2 ************ ╘OPIC 2 ╞RI ╩AN 18, 1991 ─.╦┴┘┼ AT 23:41 ╨╙╘ ╙UB: '81 PARTITION.HELP ╙ORT PROGRAMS RESET '81 DRIVE AND SUBDIRECTORY IS LOSOT DIR REAPPEARS. ┴N OLD 64 PRG ─╔╥ ╙╧╥╘ ╨╥╔╬╘ WILL SORT AND PRINT BUT DOES NOT SAVE THE DIRECTORY. ╚ELP.. *S 5 MESSAGE(S) TOTAL. ------------ ═ESSAGE 1 ╞RI ╩AN 18, 1991 ─.╦┴┘┼ AT 23:47 ╨╙╘ ╔'VE LOADED 4 DIFFERENT 1581 ALPHA SORTER PRGS FROM THE 1571 DRIVE AND EACH POGRAM RESETS THE 1581 DRIVE SO THAT THE SUBDIRECTORY IS LOST AND THE ROOT DIRECTORY REAPPEARS. ╘HERE IS AN OLD 64 PROGRAM CAL─╔╥ ╙╧╥╘ ╨╥╔╬╘" WHICH WILL DO AN ALPHA SORT AND THEN PRINT THE SORTED DIRECTORY. ╒NFORTUNATELY, IT DOESN'T SAVE THE NEWLY SORTED DIRECTORY ON THE DI╔'VE LOOKED AT THE CODE IN THE SORT PROGRAMS BUT ╔'M NOT SURE ╔ CAN FIND THE LINE WHICH RESETS THE DRIVE. ┴NY HELP WILL BE MUCH APPRECIATED. ------------ ═ESSAGE 2 ╙AT ╩AN 19, 1991 ╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1 AT 03:57 ┼╙╘ ─╦, ╚AVE YOU CONSIDERED USING YOUR ╫╨? ═OST ALL COMMERCIAL ╫╨'S SUPPORT PARTITIONING ON THE 1581, AND ALSO ALLOW FOR LOADING A DIRECTORY INTO THEIR BUFFER. ╞ROM THERE, DOING A BLOCK SORT SHOULD GET THE DIRECTORY IN ALPHA ORDER, AND READY FOR PRINTING. ╒SING A ╫╨ HAS THE ADDED ADVANTAGE IN LETTING YOU EDIT, ADD, AND CHANGE STUFF AROUND TO YOUR LIKING BEFORE DOING ANY PRINTING. ╚OWIE ------------ ═ESSAGE 3 ╙UN ╩AN 20, 1991 ├128.╩┬┼┼ AT 16:14 ┼╙╘ ╔ SHOULD HAVE A 1581 PARTITION UTILITY UP IN THE LIBRARIES SOMEWHERE :─ ╔T SHOULD BE CALLED "PART.TIN.ME.JBE" IF IT ISN'T ╔ WILL UPLOAD IT. ╔T SPLITS A 1581 INTO (4)1541 PARTITIONS. ╔ ALSO HAVE A SORT PROGRAM (WRITTEN BY SOMEONE ELSE) THAT WILL LET YOU SORT PARTITIONS. ╔F ╔ FORGET TO UPLOAD THEM REMIND ME IN A COUPLE OF DAYS. ╩┬┼┼ (: PS.╔ BELIEVE ├═─'S ╚─ SORTER FOR NATIVE PARTITIONS WILL ALSO WORK ON 1581S. ------------ ═ESSAGE 4 ╙AT ╩UN 06, 1992 ├═─-─╧╒╟ AT 10:42 ┼─╘ ╥ESETTING OF THE 1581 PARTITION IS CAUSED BY SENDING AN ╔╬╔╘╔┴╠╔┌┼ COMMAND. ╘HERE USED TO BE A UTILITY FLOATING AROUND SOMEWHERE THAT WOULD CORRECT THIS (UNTIL THE DRIVE IS POWERED DOWN OR RESET). ------------ ═ESSAGE 5 ╙AT ╩UN 06, 1992 ├128.╩┬┼┼ [* ╙YSOP *] AT 18:19 ┼─╘ ╔T WAS ALSO PUBLISHED A WHILE AGO IN ╘├128, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OLDER ISSUES LOOK THROUGH THOSE. ------------ *************** ├ATEGORY 3 ╘OPIC 3 ************ ╘OPIC 3 ╘UE ═AR 26, 1991 ┼.┬┼╬─┼╥ AT 18:36 ┼╙╘ ╙UB: FAST CAD PROBLEMS WITH PGM ╔ HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THIS PGM. ╘HE CIRCLE RADIUS COMMAND DOESN'T WORK. ─OES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INFO ABOUT THIS PGM? 3 MESSAGE(S) TOTAL. ------------ ═ESSAGE 1 ╘UE ═AR 26, 1991 ┼.┬┼╬─┼╥ AT 18:38 ┼╙╘ ╔T SEEMS THAT THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THIS PGM. ╔ CANNOT GET A CIRCLE RADIUS WITH ├ . ─OES ANYBODY HAVE A SOLUTION? ------------ ═ESSAGE 3 ═ON ┴UG 05, 1991 ├128.╩┬┼┼ [* ╙YSOP *] AT 01:14 ┼─╘ ╘HIS IS THE "FAST CAD" ├64 SHAREWARE PROGRAM? ------------ *************** ├ATEGORY 3 ╘OPIC 4 ************ ╘OPIC 4 ╙AT ╧CT 26, 1991 ╥.╦╬╧╨1 [╥OB ╦NOP] (╞ORWARDED) ╙UB: ╨OCKET ╫RITER ╘HE EXCELLENT WORD PROCESSOR FROM ─IGITAL ╙OLUTIONS. 12 MESSAGE(S) TOTAL. ------------ ═ESSAGE 1 ╙AT ╧CT 26, 1991 ╥.╦╬╧╨1 [╥OB ╦NOP] (╞ORWARDED) ╫HATEVER ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THAT ╨OCKET ╫RITER 2 SPELL CHECKER??? ╨ROBABLY ONE OF TWO ANNOYING THINGS ABOUT AN OTHERWISE EXCELLENT WORD PROCESSOR. (╘HE OTHER BEING THE COPY PROTECTION THAT PREVENTS YOU FROM INSTALLING ╨╫ ANYWHERE OTHER THAN A 5.25" DISK.) ╔ SEEM TO RECALL READING THAT THE SPELL CHECKER WASN'T ANY DIFFERENT IN ╨╫3? ╔S THE UPGRADE TO ╨╫3 WORTH IT? ╔ AM A REGISTERED USER (AT LEAST, ╔ SENT IN MY REGISTRATION CARD WAY BACK WHEN), BUT ╔ NEVER HEARD FROM ─IGITAL ╙OLUTIONS ABOUT ANY UPGRADE OFFER. ╔ HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT ╨╫2: IT IS NOT ONLY AN EXCELLENT WORD PROCESSOR, BUT ALSO A GOOD TEXT EDITOR. ╔T HAS NEARLY ALL THE FEATURES ╔ WOULD WANT IN A TEXT EDITOR, INCLUDING ABILITY TO READ AND WRITE BOTH ┴╙├╔╔ AND ╨┼╘╙├╔╔ FILES. ╘HE ONE FEATURE ╔ REALLY WANT, THOUGH, THAT ╔ HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND, IS PARAGRAPH FILL. ─OES ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO DO THIS WITH ╨╫2? ╫HAT THAT MEANS IS, IF YOU HAVE A PARAGRAPH IN A TEXT FILE, AND YOU DELETE HALF OF ONE LINE, YOU EXECUTE A PARAGRAPH FILL TO RE-LINE UP THE PARAGRAPH SUCH THAT ALL LINES GO MORE OR LESS TO THE RIGHT MARGIN. ╔N WORD PROCESSING MODE, ╨╫2 DOES THIS AUTOMATICALLY, OF COURSE. ╔'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS SORT OF THING WHEN IN ╙┼╤ MODE. -╥OB ------------ ═ESSAGE 2 ╙UN ╧CT 27, 1991 ╚╧╫╔┼-├┬═ [╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1] (╞ORWARDED) ╔ *╥┼┴╠╠┘* LIKE THIS TOPIC HEADER!!! :) ╓ERY NIFTY ╥OB! ╘HE DICTIONARY ╨╫3 USES IS THE SAME AS EARLIER ╨╫ VERSIONS, WHICH IS JUST AS WELL, SINCE ╔ MUST HAVE ADDED THOUSANDS OF WORDS TO IT BY NOW. ═ANY WERE DONE INDIVIDUALLY. ┬UT MORE CAME FROM OTHER DICTIONARIES. ╫ITH ╨╫3 IT BECAME AN EASY TASK TO ADD WORDS, AUTOMATICALLY USING ITS MACRO CAPABILITY. ╧NE THING ╔ HAD TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THO, WAS TO REVIEW THINGS AHEAD OF TIME, SINCE A LOT OF PUBLIC DOMAIN DICTIONARIES SEEM TO CONTAIN A LOT OF WORDS THAT ╔ DON'T WANT IN MINE. ┼SPECIALLY CONTRACTIONS. ╫HERE THE DICTIONARY FALLS SHORT IS IN NOT BEING ABLE TO DELETE ONCE YOU'VE ADDED SOMETHING. ╘HIS FEATURE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED. ╔ GET AROUND THIS BY ALWAYS USING THE DICTIONARY FROM THE ╥┼╒. ╘HIS WAY, IF ╔'VE MADE A MISTAKE, ╔ JUST DO NOT BOTHER COPYING OVER THE BIGGER DICTIONARY TO DISK. ╥EFORMATTING ╙┼╤ FILES (AKA: ASCII TEXT FILES ON OTHER PLATFORMS) CAN BE DONE, BUT NOT WITHOUT A BIT OF TRICKERY. ╘HIS IS BECAUSE THE ╙┼╤ FILE HAS A HARD CARRIAGE RETURN AFTER EACH LINE. ╔N ITS ╫╨ MODE, WITH PROGRAM FILES, A HARD RETURN APPEARS ONLY AT THE END OF PARAGRAPHS, SO TEXT WITHIN A PARAGRAPH GETS REFORMATTED EACH TIME IT IS CHANGED. ╔'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS UNIVERSAL WITH ALL ╫╨'S. ╔F ANYONE KNOWS OF ANY ╫╨'S (EVEN THINGS LIKE ╫ORD╨ERFECT) THAT CAN REFORMAT AN ASCII TEXT (╙┼╤) FILE, ╔'D LIKE TO KNOW. ╔ THINK PART OF THE PROB IS THAT THE ╙┼╤ (ASCII) FILE HAS NO FORMAT TO IT. ╔F HARD CARRIAGE RETURNS GET DELETED, THE TEXT SPILLS OUT ONTO ONE LONG LINE. ╨╫ WILL ALLOW ITS TEXT TO RUN FOR 9,999 CHARACTERS PER LINE. ╘HERE IS NOTHING TO LIMIT THIS, AS OPPOSED TO ╫╨ OR PROGRAM MODE, WHERE MARGINS CAN BE DEFINED. ┴ ├╧╬╘╥╧╠/╙╚╔╞╘ OR A ├╧╬╘╥╧╠/╥┼╘╒╥╬ WILL TOGGLE THOSE INVISIBLE CARRIAGE RETURNS ON AND OFF. ╘HERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT ╔ KNOW OF TO REFORMAT THAT ╙┼╤ TEXT: ╫HILE IN ╙┼╤ MODE, CURSOR TO BEHIND THE ├╥ TO BE DELETED, AND BACKSPACE OVER IT. ╘HEN INSERT A ╙╨┴├┼. ┴ND, PRESS ├╥ WHERE YOU WANT THE LINE TO END. ╘HE OTHER WAY, WHICH ╔ USE IS TO CONVERT THE TEXT TO ╫╨ (PROGRAM) MODE. ╞ORMAT MARGINS TO AGREE WITH THE EXISTING FILE'S MARGINS. ╘HEN DELETE THE HARD CARRIAGE RETURNS AS DESCRIBED ABOVE. ╒SING THE ╫╨ MODE, ONCE THE ├╥ IS DELETED, AND A ╙╨┴├┼ INSERTED, THE TEXT REFORMATS ITSELF. ╠ATER, IT CAN THEN BE CONVERTED BACK INTO THE ╙┼╤ FILE. ╘HE NICE THING WITH ╨╫3 IS THAT INSTEAD OF DOING ALL THESE MINIPULATIONS MANUALLY, A LOT OF THEM CAN BE DELEGATED TO A MACRO. ╔ STILL HAVE TO BE THERE TO SHOW THE MACRO WHICH LINES TO REFORMAT, BUT THEN THE MACRO WILL DO ALL THE OTHER THINGS. ┬ECAUSE THE REFORMATTING IS LINE SENSITIVE, ╔'VE SET UP SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONES, FOR ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO 15 ├╥ DELETIONS, AT A TIME, PER MACRO. ╙O IT IS STILL A MANUAL TASK, BUT A LOT EASIER. ╚OWIE ------------ ═ESSAGE 3 ╙UN ╧CT 27, 1991 ┴═╞╧╥─ (╞ORWARDED) ╘HE ╫RITE ╙TUFF ALLOWS YOU TO STRIP OFF EXTRAC CARRIAGE RETURNS WHEN IT READS IN A SEQUENTIAL FILE. ╬OT EXACTLY A SPEED DEMON ON LARGE FILE, BUT IT BEATS THE ╚┼├╦ OUT OF DOING IT BY HAND!!! ------------ ═ESSAGE 4 ═ON ╧CT 28, 1991 ─.─┴╬╔┼╠╙6 (╞ORWARDED) ╚EY GUYS ╔ REALLY NEED SPME HELP HERE ╔ NEED A PROGRAM FOR THE C-64 TO READ AND ANSWER MEGA-MAIL THE REASON WHY IS THAT ╔ WAS JUST OFFERED TO BECOME CO- SYSOP OF A LOCAL BBS BUT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO D/LOAD MEGA-MAIL AND ANSWER TO SEND BACK UP.... THE BBS PROGRAM IS EXECUTIVE HOST BY TELEX....╔ CAN ONLY ASSUME IT IS A ╔┬═ TERMINAL PROGRAM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW...... ╚╒╥╘╔╬╟ ╔╬ ├╧╬╬┼├╘╔├╒╘ WILL CALL TO ANYONE WHO HAS THE ANSWER TO MY DELEMIA JUST SEND EMAIL TO ─.─ANIELS6 OR PO<Ñó !!! THANKS! ------------ ═ESSAGE 5 ═ON ╧CT 28, 1991 ╥.╦╬╧╨1 [╥OB ╦NOP] (╞ORWARDED) ╚OWDY- ╫HERE ╔'VE SEEN ╙┼╤ FORMAT FILES REFORMATTED IS IN TEXT EDITORS ON MAINFRAME SYSTEMS. ╔N ╓═╙, ╔ USED ┼╓┼, AND ON ╒NIX, ╔ USE EMACS. ┬OTH OPERATE ON TEXT FILES THE SAME WAY AS ╨╫2 DOES ON ╙┼╤ FILES- THERE ARE ├╥'S AT THE END OF EVERY LINE. ╚OWEVER, THEY ARE ABLE TO FILL PARAGRAPHS. ─OING SO IN CODE ISN'T HARD, AND INDEED EVERY NOW AND THEN ╔ TOY WITH THE IDEA OF WRITING A TEXT EDITOR THAT WOULD HAVE THIS FEATURE, BUT SINCE ╨╫2 DOES EVERYTHING ELSE ╔ WOULD WANT A TEXT EDITOR TO DO, ╔ HAVE NEVER DONE IT. (╨ERHAPS IF ╩┬┼┼ MANAGES TO HACK OUT THE COPY PROTECTION CODE, HE COULD TELL ME WHAT SPACE HE FREED UP IN THE SYSTEM AND ╔ COULD TRY TO PATCH IN A FILL PARAGRAPH ROUTINE ;) --- THAT WOULD BE A FAIRLY MAJOR UNDERTAKING, ╔ WOULD EXPECT, THOUGH.) ┴S TO THE DICTIONARY, ╔ THINK WHAT BUGS ME THE MOST ABOUT THE ╨╫2 SPELLING CHECKER IS THAT, WHEN IT FINDS A MISSPELLED WORD, IT WILL SKIP OVER ALL FUTURE OCCURRENCES OF THE WORD. ╙O, SUPPOSE ╔ HAVE "THA" IN SEVERAL PLACES IN MY DOCUMENT WHERE ╔ WANT "THAT". ╔T WILL FIND THE FIRST ONE AND LET ME CORRECT IT, BUT IT WILL SKIP ALL OF THE REST. ╘HIS IS RATHER ANNOYING. ╚AS IT BEEN FIXED IN ╨╫3? ┴LSO, IT IS KIND OF SAD THAT THE SPELLING CHECKER DOESN'T OFFER SOME GUESSES AT CORRECT SPELLINGS, LIKE GEO╙PELL DOES, OR WORD PROCESSORS ╔'VE SEEN ON ═ACS AND THINGS. ┬UT THIS IS SECONDARY, IN MY OPINION. ╘HE MACRO FEATURES OF ╨╫3 SOUND PRETTY NICE... MIGHT MAKE IT WORTH THE UPGRADE. (╚OW WOULD ╔ GO ABOUT DOING THIS UPGRADE? ╔ NEVER HEARD FROM ─IGITAL ╙OLUTIONS.) -╥OB ------------ ═ESSAGE 6 ╘UE ╧CT 29, 1991 ═.═╔╬╬╔╟ (╞ORWARDED) *╒╨ ╚ERE'S THE UPGRADE INFO ╔ GOT FROM ─IGITAL WHEN ╔ SENT IN MY REGISTRATION CARDS FOR THE ╨OCKET SERIES (YOU REMEMBERED TO USE EXTRA POSTAGE TO COVER THE TRIP TO ├ANADA, DIDN'T YOU? ;─ ): ╨OCKET ╫RITER 2 TO ╨OCKET ╫RITER 3... ╒╙$29.95 ╨ROVIDE: 1) ╙ERIAL# OF PROGRAM BEING UPGRADED 2) ╙ELECTION OF 64 ╧╥ 128 VERSION 3) ╨AYMENT BY CHECK, MONEY ORDER, ╓╔╙┴, ═ASTER├ARD OR ┴MEX. ─IGITAL'S ADDRESS IS: ─IGITAL ╙OLUTIONS ╔NC. ╨.╧. ┬OX 345, ╙TATION ┴ ╫ILLOWDALE, ╧NTARIO ├ANADA ═2╬ 5╙9 ═ICHAEL ------------ ═ESSAGE 7 ╘UE ╧CT 29, 1991 ├128-┬╔╠╠ [┬ILL] (╞ORWARDED) ╟OOD INFORMATION, ═ICHAEL. ╘HANX! ------------ ═ESSAGE 8 ╫ED ╧CT 30, 1991 ╚╧╫╔┼-├┬═ [╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1] (╞ORWARDED) ╥OB, ╔ TESTED 'THA' ON THE DICTIONARY, AND THIS IS HOW IT WORKS IN ╨╫3. ╔F ╔ CHANGE IT, MORE THA'S LATER ON WILL STILL GET HIGHLIGHTED, AND QUESTIONED. ╚OWEVER, ONCE A 'THA' IS ADDED, THE DICTIONARY ACCEPTS THE THA'S IN THE REST OF THE FILE, AND THEY GET SKIPPED OVER. ╘HE ADDED FEATURES YOU MENTION WOULD BE NICE, EVEN HAVING WORD DEFINITIONS AND THESAURUS. ╔ SUPPOSE NOW WITH ALL THE ╥┼╒ RAMS AVAILABLE THIS COULD BE DONE. ├ONSIDERING THAT THESE THINGS, WOULD BE MODULAR, THEY MIGHT RUN PRETTY SLOW FROM A DRIVE. ╔'VE NEVER TRIED USING THE DICTIONARY OTHER THAN WITH THE ╥┼╒, SINCE ╞ILER2'S DISK ACCESS ON ANY MODEST SIZED DATABASE WAS SO SLOW. ╔T CERTAINLY WOULD BE NICE IF ─IGITAL ╙OLUTIONS COULD BE TALKED INTO UPGRADING ╨╫ EVEN FURTHER, MAKING AN ENHANCED VERSION FOR ALL THE NEW HARDWARE WE NOW HAVE. ╨╫3 IS ALREADY MODULAR (IT NEEDS THREE OVERLAY FILES TO RUN). ╫ONDERING IF ANYONE KNOWS ANY OF THE FOLKS AT ─IGITAL AND IF THEY COULD BE TALKED INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS??? ??? :) ═ANEUVERING ╙┼╤ FILES WOULD BE NICE TOO. ╚OWIE ------------ ═ESSAGE 9 ╫ED ╧CT 30, 1991 ═.═╔╬╬╔╟ (╞ORWARDED) ╔ WROTE TO ─IGITAL ABOUT EXACTLY THAT: REWRITING THE ╨OCKET SERIES TO MAKE USE OF MY "SUPER EXPANDED" 128 (╥┴═╠INK & ╚─-40). ╘HEIR REPLY WAS THAT "IN ORDER TO MAKE USE OF YOUR HARDWARE IT WOULD REQUIRE A MAJOR REWRITE OF THE PROGRAM. ╟IVEN THE DECLINING MARKET, SUCH A PROJECT WOULD NOT BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE." ╧R WORDS TO THAT EFFECT. :( ╘OO BAD! ┬OOTING FROM A ╥┴═╠INK WOULD REALLY BE NICE! ┴T ONE TIME, ╙╙╔ HAD A DISK CALLED "┼LITE ╓. 3.0" WHICH WOULD DE-PROTECT SOME OF THE ╨OCKET 2 SERIES AND LEAVE THEM AS FILE-COPYABLE PROGRAMS. ╒NFORTUNATELY, THIS IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE, AND ╙╙╔'S ═┴╓┼╥╔├╦ WILL ONLY GIVE YOU ANOTHER FLOPPY COPY. ═ICHAEL ------------ ═ESSAGE 10 ╘HU ╧CT 31, 1991 ╚╧╫╔┼-├┬═ [╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1] (╞ORWARDED) ╘HANKS ═ICHAEL! ╫ELL, AT LEAST ONCE THEY'RE RUNNING THE ╨OCKET PROGRAMS DO GREAT WITH ╥╠. ╔ STILL CANNOT GET OVER HOW EASILLY THEY ACCESS ALL THE PARTITIONS, AND JUMP IN AND OUT OF ALL THE SUBDIRECTORIES. ═Y FAVORITE IS WHEN FILES GET BATCH TRANSFERRED FROM ╥╠ TO ╥┼╒ OR VICE VERSA. ╘HOSE FILE NAMES MERELY 'BLINK' ON THE STATUS LINE AS EACH GETS WRITTEN. :) ╚OWIE ------------ ═ESSAGE 11 ╘UE ┴PR 28, 1992 ╫.╩╧╚╬╙╧╬5 AT 03:43 ┼─╘ ╔ HAVE TO SAY ╔ WAS A VERY UNHAPPY CAMPER WITH THIS PROGRAM. ┴FTER WE HAD BEEN USING IT FOR ABOUT A MONTH, WE NOTICED THAT EVERY THIRD TRY OR SO IT WOULD LOCK UP ON US. ╘HEN WHEN GOING BACK TO THE MASTER DISK FOR AN OVERLAY, IT WOULD ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAD NOT INSERT A DISK WITH AN OVERLAY FILE IN IT, EVEN THOUGH THESE APPEARED IN THE DISK DIRECTORY. ╞INALLY THE PROGRAM JUST FLAT DIED ON US. ╘HAT WAS LAST WEEK: ╔ HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT TAKES TO GET A REPLACEMENT DISK, BUT ALL THE MANUAL SAYS IS "╙EE THE FILE ╥┼┴─═┼ FOR INFORMATION ON ORDERING A REPLACEMENT DISK" - WHICH IS FINE, IF YOU CAN READ THE FILE ╥┼┴─═┼ OFF THE MASTER DISK. ┴LL IN ALL, ╔ WAS DISAPPOINTED WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THIS PRODUCT. ═Y OLD ╫╨, ┬ETTER ╫ORKING, WAS IN MANY WAYS SUPERIOR TO THIS EVEN THOUGH IT ONLY SUPPORTS MY 128 IN ├64 MODE AND WITH 40 COLUMNS. ┴T LEAST IT STILL RUNS AFTER 7 YEARS. ------------ ═ESSAGE 12 ╘UE ┴PR 28, 1992 ╚╧╫╔┼-├┬═ AT 05:04 ┼─╘ ╙ORRY TO HEAR ABOUT THESE PROBLEMS. ╔'D SUGGEST THAT YOU IMMEDIATELY RETURN THE BAD DISK TO ─IGITAL ╙OLUTIONS, ALONG WITH A NOTE EXPLAINING THAT THE DISK WENT BAD. ╘HEY WILL SEND YOU A REPLACEMENT. ╔T IS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE BACK-UP (AND PREFERABLY MORE) OF A FREQUENTLY USED PROGRAM, SO IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AN EXTRA ONE, ╔'D SUGGEST INCLUDING A CHECK FOR $10 FOR TWO DISKS. ┴N ALTERNATIVE FOR MAKING COPIES MIGHT ALSO BE USING THE ═AVERICK AND ╥AM┬OARD COMBO. ┬╘╫, THOSE THREE OVERLAY FILES ARE NOT COPY PROTECTED, SO CAN EASILLY BE WRITTEN OVER TO OTHER DISKS, FOR EASY PROGRAM ACCESS, OR IDEALLY FOR WRITING TO THE ╥┼╒, WHERE THEY LOAD IN, IN NANOSECONDS. ╚OWIE ------------ *************** ├ATEGORY 3 ╘OPIC 5 ************ ╘OPIC 5 ╙UN ╬OV 10, 1991 ╚╧╫╔┼-├┬═ [╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1] AT 20:09 ┼╙╘ ╙UB: ╠─╙' ╨ERSONAL ┴NCESTRAL ╞ILE ╠─╙' ├╨/═ VERSION OF ╨┴╞ IS FILE COMPATABLE WITH ╨┴╞ ON ALL OTHER COMPUTER PLATFORMS. ╠─╙ NO LONGER SUPPPORTS THE ├╨/═ VERSION, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE BEGUN TO GRANT PERMISSION TO FREELY DISTRIBUTE THE PROGRAM. 10 MESSAGE(S) TOTAL. ------------ ═ESSAGE 1 ╙UN ╬OV 10, 1991 ╚╧╫╔┼-├┬═ [╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1] AT 20:12 ┼╙╘ ┴PPARENTLY ╠─╙ HAS GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT TO FREELY DISTRIBUTE THE ├╨/═ VERSION OF ╨┴╞, SINCE ╔ JUST RECEIVED A COPY ON A FLOPPY, FROM A FRIEND. ╘HE FOUR DISKS CAME PACKAGED AS FOUR ╠╔┬RARIED FILES ON THE ONE 3 1/2" DISK. ╔ HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO GET THINGS UP AND RUNNING YET ON MY ├128. ┴ND, COMPLICATING MATTERS, ╔ KNOW *╬╧╘╚╔╬╟* ABOUT GENEOLOGY. ╚OWEVER, ╔ *─╧* INTEND TO LEARN... <╥┼╘╒╥╬>, <╙>CROLL, <╤>UIT ?S ╔'D LIKE TO UPLOAD THIS PROGRAM (800K IN ╠┬╥ FILES, SO ╔ QUESS 1.4 ═EGS OR SO ONCE DELIBRARIED AND UNCRUNCHED.) ├OULD SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN/NEAR ╙╠├ CONTACT THE POWERS THAT BE AT ╠─╙, AND CONFIRM THAT IT IS OKEY TO HAVE THE PROGRAM HERE? ╔T APPEARS THAT ╨┴╞ WILL BE ABLE TO RUN FROM THE 1581 DISK. (╟┼─├╧═ AND ITS RELATED FILES WON'T FIT, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO BE ON A SEPERATE DISKS.) ╘HANKS TO MY NEWLY FOUND INFO ON GENEOLOGY, ╔ *╦╬╧╫* WHAT ╟┼─├╧═ IS FOR, AND WHAT IT DOES, AND THAT IT IS NEEDED ONLY RARELY. ╙INCE IT APPEARS THAT ╨┴╞ WILL BE DOING A LOT OF DISK ACCESSING, IT SEEMS BEST TO HAVE IT RUN FROM THE ╥┼╒, BUT THERE MAY JUST NOT BE ENOUGH RAM IN THERE TO FIT EVERYTHING. ╔T'S NO PROB TO CHANGE THE ╥┼╒ INTO AN ┴ OR ┬ DRIVE, BUT GETTING MORE THAN 500K INTO IT HAS ME STUMPED FOR NOW... ╚OWIE ╨.╙. ╘HIS IS ALL SO NEW TO ME, ╔ DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO SPELL GENEALOGY CORRECTLY. :/ ╨╨.╙. ╞OR THOSE WHO WERE ASKING ABOUT USING OVERLAY FILES AS A MEANS TO OVERCOME THE 64K MEMORY LIMIT, WELL ╨┴╞'S ╧NE PLUS ═EG OF PROGRAMS THAT RUN IN LESS THAN ├╨/═'S 64K IS ONE EXAMPLE. :) ------------ ═ESSAGE 2 ═ON ╬OV 11, 1991 ├128.╩┬┼┼ [* ╙YSOP *] AT 00:39 ┼╙╘ ╙OUNDS LIKE A HECK OF A PROGRAM! ╔F YOU CAN UPLOAD IT ╔ WOULD SAY TO .ARK THE FILES. ╔ BELIEVE .ARK SQUEEZES THEM VS. LIB WHICH JUST STORES THEM. ├OULD BE WRONG AS ╔ KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT ├╨/═. ------------ ═ESSAGE 3 ═ON ╬OV 11, 1991 ═.─╒╠╙╦╔1 [═ARK] AT 21:41 ├╙╘ ╚OWIE, ┴S SOON AS YOU FIND OUT IF IT'S ╧╦ TO UPLOAD COULD YOU LET US KNOW WHEN YOU DO IT? ╘HE ╨┴╞ IS ONE PROGRAM ╔'LD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT. ┬EEN DOING MY FAMILY ANCESTRY FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS OFF & ON. ╔'M NOW USING ╟┼╧FILE FOR MY FAMILY GROUPS BUT ╔ THINK ╨┴╞ WOULD BE FAR MORE VERSATILE. ╚OPEFULLY IT WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH TO CONFIQURE FOR THE 128, DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT CP/M. ╔ TAKE IT YOU'LL UPLOAD THIS TO THE ├╨/═ ╥OUNDTABLE LIBRARIES IF YOU GET THE ╧╦? >>═ARK>> ------------ ═ESSAGE 4 ╘UE ╬OV 12, 1991 ╚╧╫╔┼-├┬═ [╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1] AT 00:35 ┼╙╘ ╩┬┼┼, ╠╔┬RARIED FILES SEEMS TO HAVE EVOLVED INTO A SORT OF STANDARD RECENTLY. ┴T LEAST MOST EVERYTHING ╔'VE DOWNLOADED SEEMS TO BE IN THAT FORM. ╘HE MEMBERS (FILES) OF THE LIBRARY ARE ALL CRUNCHED. ╔ DON'T KNOW HOWEVER IF CRUNCHING SHRINKS THEM BETTER THAN ARCING, HOWEVER. ╙EVERAL UTILITES WILL DO THE DELIBRARYING AND UNCRUNCHING AT ONE TIME, SO FOR THE USER IT'S AS EASY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. ╘HE REASON THAT ╨┴╞ IS IN FOUR LIBRARYS IS THAT THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM CAME GROUPED ON 4 DISK, EACH FOR SEPERATE FUNCTIONS. ╔ STILL DON'T KNOW HOW NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION MAY BE. ╚OWEVER, ╔'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE DOS VERSION RUNS PRETTY MUCH LIKE THE ├╨/═ ONE, AND THAT CAN BE PURCHASED, ALONG WITH A PRINTED ═ANUAL. ╫ELL, LET'S SEE IF ╠─╙ WILL ALLOW THESE TO GET UPLOADED... ----- ═ARK, ╔'M STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO AND WHERE TO WRITE TO AT ╠─╙ TO GET THEIR PERMISSION TO UPLOAD ╨╞╙. ╔F ANYONE MIGHT KNOW, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. ┴CTUALLY, NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, THE ├╨/═ ╥OUND╘ABLE ╠IBRARY MIGHT BE THE PLACE FOR THESE FILES. ╔'LL LET ╩┬┼┼ OR ┬ILL DECIDE THIS ONE. :) ╙INCE ╔ AM NOT SURE HOW LONG THE DELAY MIGHT BE, AND SINCE ╠─╙ IS ALLOWING ╨╞╙ (├╨/═ VERSION ONLY) TO BE DISTRIBUTED, SO LONG AS IT IS DONE ON A FREE (NO- PROFIT) BASIS, ╔'LL SEND A DISK TO YOU NOW. ╙END ME A PRE-FORMATTED FLOPPY (CBM ├╨/═), ALONG WITH A MAILER WITH RETURN POSTAGE. ┴LSO, INCLUDE A NOTE REMINDING ME WHY. :) ╚OWIE ------------ ═ESSAGE 5 ╘UE ╬OV 12, 1991 ═.─╒╠╙╦╔1 [═ARK] AT 21:35 ├╙╘ ╚OWIE, ╩UST REMEMBERED ╔ HAVE A BOOK ABOUT THE ╠─╙ ╞AMILY ╚ISTORY ╠IBRARY SO ╔ LOOKED UP THE ╨┴╞ IN THE INDEX. ╞OUND THIS ADDRESS YOU MIGHT TRY: ╞OR INFORMATION ON ╠─╙ COMPUTER PRGS AND SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: ┴NCESTRAL ╞ILE ╧PERATION ╒NIT ╞AMILY ╚ISTORY ─EPARTMENT 50 ┼AST ╬ORTH ╘EMPLE ╙TREET ╙ALT ╠AKE ├ITY, ╒╘ 84150 ╘HERE IS ANOTHER ADDRESS FOR ORDERING ANY OF THEIR COMPUTER PRGS, PAMPHLETS, FORMS, ETC. ╨ROBABLY JUST A DISTRIBUTION CTR. >>═ARK>> ------------ ═ESSAGE 6 ╘UE ╬OV 12, 1991 ├128-┬╔╠╠ [┬ILL] AT 23:38 ┼╙╘ ┘ES, THE PLACE FOR THIS PROGRAM SHOULD BE THE ├╨/═ ╥OUND╘ABLE ┴FTER SOMEONE GETS THE ADDRESS/PHONE NUMBER OR THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER. ├OULD THE ADDRES/PHONE INFO BE IN THE DOCS, SOMEWHERE? ╠EMME KNOW, AND ╔'LL CALL THEM, PRONTO. (...AND YES, ┴╥╦ED FILES WOULD BE GREAT!) ------------ ═ESSAGE 7 ╘UE ╬OV 12, 1991 ├128-┬╔╠╠ [┬ILL] AT 23:41 ┼╙╘ ╘HANX FOR THE INFO, ═ARK! ------------ ═ESSAGE 8 ╫ED ╬OV 13, 1991 ╚╧╫╔┼-├┬═ [╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1] AT 02:21 ┼╙╘ ┬ILL, ╚ERE'S THE INFO ABOUT THE PERSON TO CONTACT, AT THE SAME ADDRESS THAT ═ARK HAS: ┴. ╟REGORY ┬ROWN ╞AMILY ╚ISTORY ─EPT. ├OPYRIGHT ├OORDINATOR 50 ┼AST ╬ORTH ╘EMPLE ╙TREET ╙ALT ╠AKE ├ITY ╒TAH 84150 ╠ET ME KNOW WHEN YOU GET THE ┴╧╦!! :) ╚OWIE ------------ ═ESSAGE 9 ╙AT ╬OV 23, 1991 ═.═├├╧╥═╔├10 [═IKE ═C-] AT 21:17 ┼╙╘ ╚OWIE- ╩UST A REMINDER.╟┼╬╔┼ HAS A GENEALOGY ╥╘.(╔'M A MEMBER)┘OU MIGHT GET ALL YOUR ANSWERS THERE. ╔T WOULD BE ═8009;3 ├AT.3 (╔ THINK). ═IKE ═C- ------------ ═ESSAGE 10 ═ON ╬OV 25, 1991 ╚╧╫╔┼-├┬═ [╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1] AT 02:16 ┼╙╘ ╘HANKS ═IKE ═C! ╔ WAS LOOKING FOR THE PAGE NUMBER. ╔ WAS THERE BEFORE, BUT FORGOT WHERE IT WAS... :/ ╚OWIE ------------ *************** ├ATEGORY 3 ╘OPIC 6 ************ ╘OPIC 6 ╙AT ╧CT 12, 1991 ╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1 (╞ORWARDED) ╙UB: ╒NIX ON THE ├64 ┴╙╘┼╥╔╪ IS A ├64 ╒NIX-LIKE ╧PERATING ╙YSTEM. ╔T IS IN THE LIBRARY AS FILE #9195, ASTERIX.SFX, A SELF-DISSOLVING ARC. ╚ERE ARE SOME (HOPEFULLY) HELPFUL SUGGESTIONS FOR RUNNING THIS COMPLEX SOFTWARE. 2 MESSAGE(S) TOTAL. ------------ ═ESSAGE 1 ╙AT ╧CT 12, 1991 ╚.╚┼╥═┴╬1 (╞ORWARDED) ╔ JUST UPLOADED A PROGRAM CALLED ┴╙╘┼╥╔╪ THAT EFFECTIVELY TURNS A ├64 INTO A MINI-LIKE ╒NIX ╧PERATING ╙YSTEM. ╔T COMES FROM A STUDENT WHO IS A COMPUTER SCIENCES MAJOR IN ┴USTRALIA. ╔T IS A COMPLEX SET OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE MEMORY RESIDENT, AS WELL AS CALLED FROM DISK. ╬OT BEING ALL THAT FAMILIAR WITH ╒NIX (IN FACT ╔ KNOW VERY LITTLE), IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET UP AND RUNNING. ╘HE AUTHOR OF ┴╙╘┼╥╔╪ ASSUMES THAT THOSE USING HIS PROGRAM HAVE READY ACCESS TO A ╒NIX AT SCHOOL, AND WILL USE THEIR ├64 ╒NIX ENVIRONMENT AS A COMPLEMENT. [┬EFORE ╔ GO ANY FURTHER, IT PROBABLY WILL BE A FEW DAYS FOR ┴╙╘┼╥╔╪ TO GET FULLY REVIEWED, AND RELEASED IN THE LIBRARY.] ╚ERE'S WHAT ╔'VE DISCOVERED THAT MAY BE HELPFUL IN GETTING STARTED: ---------------------------------------- --------------------------- ╘O READ ANY OF THE DOC FILES, ENTER AT THE PROMPT: ]DISK ?ANYNAME ; PAGE ANYNAME ╫HERE ANYNAME IS THE NAME OF THE FILE YOU WANT TO READ. ╙OME LETTERS USE CAPITALS, SO BE CAREFUL TO MATCH. ╙O, FOR EXAMPLE TO READ THE FILE, ╫HY: ]DISK ?╫HY ; PAGE ╫HY ╙OME LONG FILE NAMES WILL WRAP TO LINE TWO. ╘HAT'S OKEY. ┬╘╫, AS YOU READ THE FILES, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE AUTHOR HAS A NEAT SENSE OF HUMOR. ╔ THINK YOU'LL ENJOY WHAT HE HAS TO SAY. ╫HEN YOU GET TO A LONG FILE AND SEE [MORE]' AT THE END OF THE SCREEN, PRESS THE ╙╨┴├┼ BAR TO SEE MORE. ┴FTER YOU'VE READ A FEW FILES, YOU CAN GET A DIRECTORY LIST, WITH THE COMMAND: LS. ╔T SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR. ╔T IS AS MANY OF THE FILES THAT YOU JUST LOOKED AT ON SCREEN, THAT HAVE BEEN STORED INTO MEMORY. ╙O, LS, AND A LOT OF OTHER COMMANDS CAN THEN BE USED, AND SEEM, BY DEFAULT, TO GO TO THIS MEMORY RESIDENT FILE DIRECTORY. ╔F YOU WANT TO RE-READ ANY OF THESE FILES AGAIN, JUST ENTER AT THE PROMPT: ]PAGE ╫HY ╘HIS ASSUMES THAT YOU PROVIOUSLY ISSUED THE LONGER COMMAND FOR ╫HY. ╫HY WILL AGAIN PRINT TO SCREEN, THIS TIME FROM RESIDENT MEMORY. ╘HE .' COMMANDS SEEM TO WORK DIFFERENTLY. ┘OU DON'T HAVE TO ISSUE THAT LONGER COMMAND LINE FIRST. ╙IMPLY ENTERING: ]PAGE .ALIAS ╘HIS WILL PRINT THE .ALIAS FILE TO SCREEN. ┴S YOU REVIEW THE MANY DOC FILES PROVIDED, YOU WILL COME ACROSS ONE WHICH LISTS OUT THE COMMANDS WHICH ARE RESIDENT, AND THOSE THAT GET CALLED FROM DISK. ╘HIS IS SIMILIAR TO ├╨/═'S TREATMENT OF RESIDENT COMMANDS. ╠IKE, ╘┘╨┼ IS RESIDENT, ETC. ╘HERE IS A LOT MORE TO THIS PACKAGE THAT ╔ DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT TO RECOGNIZE. ┬UT, THE ABOVE SHOULD HELP ANY NEWCOMER TO ╒NIX TO GET UP AND RUNNING QUICKLY. ╚OWIE ------------ ═ESSAGE 2 ╙AT ╧CT 12, 1991 ├128.╩┬┼┼ [* ╙YSOP *] (╞ORWARDED) ╔NTERESTING! ╘HIS SHOULD PUT A NEW TWIST ON THE ├64 AS A LEARNING TOOL! ------------